Hailing from the chilly upper reaches of America's midwest is stalwart steady stater Doug Doug La Follette, Wisconsin's current Secretary of State. In addition to holding high office, La Follette has a Ph.D. in organic chemistry, co-founded the Clean Wisconsin initiative, and served as a Wisconsin organizer of the first Earth Day in 1970. In this episode, Brian speaks with La Follette about his ascent into environmentalism, the Wisconsin conservation movement, and his efforts to bring steady statesmanship to the state.