Grace and Lizzie have a fireside chat about creativity and some recent events involving Switchfoot and LuLaRoe.
In three places, the audio of this episode is garbled. Please accept our apologies and know that it doesn't last long.
Here are links to the Switchfoot TikTok saga: Grace's initial video, the vlog of the concert, Switchfoot's response, and Grace's response to Switchfoot.
