What if the next threat to buried infrastructure isn't an excavator's bucket….it's an algorithm that already knows where every line is buried?
Mike sits down with AI strategist, futurist, and bestselling author Peter Swain, who has led more than 1,400 technology projects with companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Google, to confront a question the damage prevention industry can no longer avoid: could big tech effectively map North America's buried infrastructure without ever touching the industry's proprietary records?
Swain's answer: yes... through correlated data alone, sets up a wide-ranging, unflinching conversation about AI models already measuring in the genius IQ range, predictions of an end to all disease within a decade, and why regulated industries will be dragged forward by rising expectations whether they're ready or not.
Along the way, the two dig into the failure of regulation, our own culpability in giving data away for convenience, and evidence that human critical thinking is measurably declining just as we need it most.
It ends with Mike answering a question few industry leaders would touch: what happens if AI makes his own job unnecessary?
Listen for:
9:17 How long can a safety industry afford to move slow?
14:00 What does genius-level AI mean for human judgment on site?
20:04 If AI takes safety jobs, can UBI catch the fall?
25:29 Could big tech sell the buried world back to its owners?
31:01 What happens to dig site safety when critical thinking fades?
Connect with Guests:Peter Swain, AI Technologist | 5x Best Selling Author | International Keynote speaker
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