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We have a very special guest in this episode... the wealthy patron who helps finance our podcast... HALEY DOWNING. We talk about dating, living in San Francisco, and a give a sneak peek of our elusive brother. This episode includes a typical Joel game show as well as plenty of juicy gossip. Who knows, maybe Haley will spill secrets on how to become a prime milf hunter? 

One fun note - we decided to treat Haley like any other friend and gave her a sample of our horrible recording skills. The content is great, the audio that content is recorded on...well, we can't win them all. 

This year it looks like our monthly Patreon donations will be going towards trans organizations. This month we'll be giving our Patreon proceeds to the Trevor Project, a non-profit that provides, among other services, a 24/7 suicide hotline for trans people. 

Interested in starting your own podcast? Check out our Buzzsprout link to get a $20 giftcard for signing up to host through them. If you're interested but not sold on the merits of the platform, give us a holler and we'll talk about why we chose and continue to use it. 

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