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In this episode, Mathew talks with Suzi Jamil, owner and director of Think Inc. Suzi talks  about her background,  the origins of Think Inc. and its mission and her love of learning, and how she combines her love and appreciation for hip-hop music and culture into her life-long love of learning with Think Inc. Later, Mathew and Suzi discuss the newest project from Think Inc., Think Inc. Academy and the great resposibilities come with teaching, specifically logic and reason. From here, Mathew and Suzi delve into the value and beauty of independant thinking but also the hard times, the alone times that come with independant thinking and how Stoicism will aide you in those times, and  how easy it is to remain in or fall into group-think.  Nearing the end, amid moments of hearty laughter during this wonderful conversation, Mathew and Suzi discuss the need for avenues and platforms that foster a persons curiousity and desire for independant thinking and prevents them from traveling down a click bate rabbit hole.