Fifteen minutes can be enough to shake your sense of self and that is exactly why people are paying attention to 5-MeO-DMT. I’m joined by Stephan Kirby, co-founder of the Mindscape Psychedelic Institute, to unpack what this psychedelic actually is, why many people call it Bufo, and why the ethical conversation matters just as much as the mystical one.
We talk about the “god molecule” effect people report at a full-release dose: ego dissolution, a sudden drop-out of identity and story, and a return that can feel like waking up with fresh space around old habits. Stephan shares why the experience is often described as less visual than traditional DMT and more like pure consciousness, and how that can shift depression, anxiety, trauma patterns, and fear of death. We also explore why some people compare it to near-death experiences, and what it means to come back holding life a little more lightly.
Safety is the thread running through everything. We get into trauma-informed psychedelic facilitation, proper screening, informed consent, medication considerations, and why a person should never be left unsupported when they are not aware of their surroundings. Stephan also explains why integration is the real work: bringing the insight into daily life through presence, breathwork, and practices that help the nervous system regulate, rather than chasing repeated peak experiences.
If you’re curious about psychedelic therapy, nervous system reset, somatic release, and the move from underground use towards research and clinical access, this conversation will give you a grounded place to start. Subscribe, share the podcast with someone who’s curious, and leave a review with the question you want us to explore next.
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