Description

In this special episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy step back from their usual format to address something that’s on many people’s minds—uncertainty. With rapid change, economic anxiety, and social division dominating conversations, they explore how we can approach difficult moments with intention, curiosity, and connection.

This conversation is a raw and honest reflection on how we process change, find common ground with others, and build bridges in challenging times. Whether it’s through personal reflection, seeking support, or simply stepping into a conversation with openness, this episode is an invitation to navigate uncertainty with purpose.

You’ll Hear:

• The Power of Self-Reflection – Why challenging our own assumptions can help us better engage with others in uncertain times.
• Navigating Fear and Anxiety – Understanding our natural responses to uncertainty—fight, flight, or freeze—and how to work through them.
• Leaning on Your Community – The importance of identifying supportive spaces and trusted individuals who provide judgment-free conversation.
• Finding Small Anchors in Conversations – How shared human experiences, even as simple as a comment about the weather or a shared hobby, can open the door to deeper connection.
• Moving Through the Unknown with Action – How small, intentional steps—whether through movement, self-care, or playfulness—can shift our mindset and help us navigate uncertainty with more confidence.

Key Takeaways:

• Look Inward Before Looking Outward – Before engaging in difficult conversations, take time to understand your own assumptions and emotions.
• Find a Safe Space for Honest Dialogue – Whether it’s a friend, mentor, or therapist, having a non-judgmental sounding board is invaluable.
• Reconnect with Playfulness and Creativity – Tapping into imagination and fun can help us envision a more positive future and take action toward it.
• Step into Conversations with Curiosity – Instead of avoiding difficult interactions, approach them with an open mind and a willingness to listen.
• Take Care of Yourself First – Movement, nature, and small grounding exercises can help shift from a place of fear to a place of possibility.

We recorded this episode because, like many of you, we’re processing a lot right now. If you’re feeling uncertainty, we invite you to reflect, connect, and explore new ways of navigating change.

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