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It is fascinating to discover that irrespective of where we start out in life,  we can end up in similar circumstances and paths to others from different backgrounds. This observation leads into our latest podcast 'Different perspectives' .

Becoming an Outsider is not a choice, rather an outcome of circumstances that  have to adapt to  and learn from through our own life experiences. 

Outsiders are faced with many challenges and therefore need to adopt a 'fight or flight' mentality, luckily both Mark and Zac are fighters ! (The friendly kind of course..)

In this episode, Mark asks Zac about his story and how he fought through severe depression using the arts as well as his own creativity as form of catharsis and a method of helping others.

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