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Chris and Ian are joined by Katherine Templar Lewis, co-creator of Uncertainty Experts, with Sam Conniff (Workplace Geeks guest on episode 8, back in series 1). Katherine is a cognitive scientist, a prolific science communicator, and is involved in all sorts of different projects and ventures, including her own Kinda Studios – a ‘neuroaesthetics studio’ which unities neuroscience with creative arts projects to explore the human experience.

The conversation revisits the groundbreaking interactive documentary experience that is Uncertainty Experts, and digs deeper into both the neuroscience that lies behind it, alongside the challenges of measuring the impact of a project (or 'intervention', in social science terms) like this... and much more besides. This enlightening discussion was seriously fun (just like Uncertainty Experts itself, which both Chris and Ian have completed)... and to top it all off, we're joined once again by the one and only Esme Banks Marr from BVN for the reflection section.

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