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I've known Dr. Shapiro for more than 15 years. Join our conversation to hear about how he thinks about emotional intelligence and who thinks they have a D vs an F (not that it is a competition!)! We touch on two tennis greats, John Newcombe and Roger Federer, as well as what a ditch has to do with emotional intelligence. Dr. Philip E. Shapiro is a dermatopathologist and dermatologist in Meriden, Connecticut who founded Dermatopathology Laboratory of New England. He previously worked at Yale University and is affiliated with multiple hospitals in the area, including St. Francis Hospital and Yale New Haven Hospital. He received his medical degree from Albany Medical College and has been in practice for 34 years. He was formerly Director of Dermatopathology at Yale. He has numerous publications and has been a leading voice in dermatopathology throughout his career; his contributions include describing interstitial mycosis fungoides and pseudomelanocytic nests.