David Nabarro is Strategic Director of 4SD, which enables changemakers to be effective for equity, justice and regenerative futures in a complex, fast-changing world (Wikipedia, Twitter).
David was a practicing medical doctor and then went into a very distinguished career in international civil service. He was the UN Secretary General's Special Adviser on Sustainable Development and Climate Change in the mid-2010s, and was part of negotiating the Sustainable Development Goals. He has a long association with the World Health Organisation, most recently as Special Envoy on COVID-19. (In the UK, if you listened to the Today Programme during the pandemic, then you almost certainly heard several interviews with David.)
The main focus of the conversation was creating national and global systems change through bringing people together, often people with conflicts and different values. For David, the process of coming to a story that means something to us all on an issue is almost the most powerful part of the kind of leadership.
In this podcast, David was speaking in a personal capacity. We recorded it on 6 May 2022. David, rightly, tells me off at 25:49 for attributing an approach to him but not letting him respond. Oops. Listen right to the end for a moment which is both very English and very un-English moment in the expression of emotion.
Links
2021 UN Food Systems Summit and 4SD's Food Systems Summit Dialogues.
What 4SD means by systems leadership.
More on Nobel Prize winner Malala here.
Presencing Institute is now the u-school for transformation with Otto Scharmer.
Timings
00:50 - Q1 What are you doing now? And how did you get there?
19:59 - Q2. What is the future you are trying to create, and why?
23:11 - Q3. What are your priorities for the next few years, and why?
27:40 - Q4. If someone was inspired to follow those priorities, what should they do next?
30:22 - Q5. If your younger self was starting their career now, what advice would you give them?
Q6. Who would you nominate to answer these questions, because you admire their approach?
31:52 - Q7. Is there anything else important you feel you have to say?
More here.
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Thank you for listening! -- David
