Rob & Jason talk with return guest and good friend Derek Sanford about how he is leading his church through a paradigmatic shift. They are moving from an attractional model to a disciple-making model...and the people are excited about it! After 30 years of ministry at his church (the last decade as the Lead Pastor), Derek is setting his congregation of 5000+ up to fulfill the Great Commission and make disciples well beyond the walls of their church building. They are "moving the finish line" and "changing the scorecard." If you want to learn more about please contact us!
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You can see Derek's message series introducing these concepts to his congregation at https://whoisgrace.org/
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