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In this episode, John and Father Stephen tackle the differences between Protestant and Catholic views on justification by analyzing Isaiah 53:11, a verse that prophesizes Jesus as the one to 'justify many' and 'bear their guilt'. They dissect the idea of imputed justice and the Catholic belief of a genuine transformation occurring through the forgiveness of sins.

Are we declared just by God or does Jesus make us just? Join them as they delve into the implications of free will, original sin, and how the Church fathers of the East and West influenced these doctrines. 

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