My gal pal, Dr. Nicole Gainyard, and I team up again to discuss where we are in our personal and professional careers. A decade after completing our PhDs., we are at a point in our lives where we have the privilege to transition from survival mode in order to redefine what we, as individuals, define as success so we can begin to live and thrive in new ways. Both of us are currently engaged in separate, "Second Act" projects. Hers is called Beloved Lotus. It involves creating in-person and virtual spaces for Black women to come together to write, read, and talk in ways that help to build community and support. My project is my education consultancy, Liminal, which centers around providing professional development and mentoring around trauma-informed, restorative practices in an effort to shift the secondary educational landscape. These projects bring us as much joy and energy as they also bring uncertainty and doubts. In this episode we talk about all of these aspects as we also share our knowledge as well as the lessons we are learning.