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In episode four of Making the Brand, Joel sat down with Aleksandar Zafirovski of Northwestern Medicine. He is an entrepreneurial mind within the healthcare industry, making him the perfect Fortress partner. Over the past several years, Fortress has worked with Aleksandar to create Breast Cancer Patient Connect, an online space where patients and survivors of breast cancer can go to feel supported, informed, and empowered. Listen to this episode for some insightful storytelling and positive lessons to take from hard times.