Brenton and Nathan discuss the heart of surrendering to Jesus, emphasizing that outward behaviors are just symptoms of a deeper issue—our sin nature. Nathan shares his approach to helping people recognize their need for Christ, focusing on the root problem rather than just their actions. They explore why some see the message of the cross as foolishness, diving into biblical wisdom and human pride. The conversation also touches on how believers should approach non-believers with truth and love rather than judgment. Finally, they examine Nicodemus' journey in the book of John, highlighting his gradual transformation from skeptic to follower of Jesus.
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