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Podcast hosts Chrissy Remsberg and Alex Harris are joined by pastors and leadership coaches, John and Kirsty Pope to discuss practical tips for managing change in ministry that can make it easier to apply the Firestarters Principle of Reorganise More Often Than You Think. Find out more about Firestarters Network at www.firestartersuk.com. Connect with John & Kirsty at rubikonministries@gmail.com.