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Today, Joe talks to Joy Dertinger (they/them)  a.k.a. Babz Thabz (@babytheyby) on Tik Tok.

Joe talks to Joy about their experience growing up in 5 point Calvinism, going to Moody Bible College, meeting their now spouse and discovering their queer identity. They also talk about Joy's work in Biblical linguistics and Lavender linguistics.

Make sure to follow Joy on Tik Tok and Instagram (@babytheyby) to learn more about their journey and all their work. 

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