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Today, Joe talks to returning guest Tom Oord. Tom is an Open and Relational theologian, professor, author and philosopher (among other things). Joe meets back up with Tom to talk about being brought up on heresy charges by the Church of the Nazarene.

This episode is frustrating, angering and also beautiful. We get to hear about many of the good things that have come from such a traumatic experience for Tom and his family.

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