On episode 25 of the 435 podcast, Robert Macfarlane and Darren Prince discuss the importance of hard work, the need for regulation and sound ordinances, the hydro plant being tested on the Shivwits reservation, and the need to invest in the community. They consider the potential of personal vehicles, the cultural thread of water conservation, and the idea of personal air transportation. They also talk about the potential for St. George to become a self-sustaining city.
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