Welcome to Leading Church with Steve Kelly. Where we aim to create a space to talk through issues that all leaders in ministry face, through authentic & transparent conversation, that helps leaders feel connected and not alone.
In today’s podcast we will be sitting down for a conversation with Mark Hopkins and Mike Murphy discussing what got Mike to chase his latest calling in helping church pastors and leaders as well as his new book XLR8
Learn more about his ministry and book here: https://theleaderscape.com/author/michael/
Want more in-depth conversations specifically catered for pastors and leaders? Join us October 1-2 for Wave Conference 2025 - Iron & Embers in Virginia Beach, VA!
