What happens when two desire coaches pause to reflect on their own relationship with desire? After three years and 111 episodes of the Desire as Medicine podcast, Brenda and Catherine open up about where desire feels alive, where it feels challenging, and how their relationship with it has evolved.
Brenda shares about her journey of building physical strength at 57 through pole dancing, inspired by a conscious choice to shift family health patterns. Catherine reflects on her uncertainty around retirement planning, revealing how some desires flow naturally while others feel overwhelming.
Together, they explore the importance of letting go of tight control and instead trusting the process of desire. Brenda captures this beautifully: "I believe everything that's happening is conspiring for me to have my desire." Obstacles become part of the journey rather than proof of failure.
They also discuss the liberation that comes from focusing on what is within their control rather than expecting others to change for their desires to be met. This awareness creates freedom, clarity, and deeper alignment with what they truly want.
Whether desire feels playful, overwhelming, or steady, this episode is an invitation to pause and ask yourself: What feels alive right now? What feels sticky? How has your relationship with desire shifted over time?
Episode Highlights
• Desire can feel alive and easy or sticky and challenging at different times
• Brenda shares her desire to build physical strength at 57 through pole dancing and other practices
• Catherine discusses her uncertainty around retirement planning as a desire that feels overwhelming
• Three seasons of desire: ignoring it, being whimsical with it, and practicing responsible desire
• Learning to trust the process instead of gripping tightly to outcomes
• Distinguishing between what is within our control versus trying to change others' behaviors
• Exploring the difference between desire and capacity: what we want versus what we can handle
• The podcast itself is an example of desire in action, evolving from casual conversation into consistent practice
We invite you to reflect on your own relationship with desire. Where are you right now? What feels alive? What feels challenging? How has your relationship with desire shifted over time?
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