In this moving episode of What Do You Say, Frank sits down with Rob and Jeremy Wiley to talk about addiction, redemption, and the incredible power of second chances. Jeremy opens up about his journey from early exposure to drugs and meth addiction to rebuilding his life through Oxford House — a community that helps recovering addicts reintegrate and evolve. Rob, founder of GRACE (Giving Recovering Addicts a Chance at Evolving), shares how his personal loss inspired a mission to save lives. Together, they discuss forgiveness, faith, and the importance of community in breaking free from addiction.
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00:00 - Show opening, guests, and Grace/Oxford partnership
01:07 - Host's personal loss and upcoming fundraiser
02:14 - Event details and Jeremy introduced; Oxford House outcomes
03:21 - Request for Jeremy's story and his early family life
07:09 - Teen experimentation and first meth experience
08:47 - Immediate love of meth, varied reactions, and biological differences
11:02 - Habit vs. addiction, missing structure, and self-loathing
14:56 - Escalation to daily meth use, arrests, and court-ordered treatment
19:30 - Salvation Army recovery, building a foundation, and treatment length
21:55 - Therapy stigma, confronting the past, and Oxford House introduction
27:01 - Oxford House transformation and early leadership role
31:52 - Forgiveness, therapy, and men seeking help
38:02 - Gratitude, time as a gift, and self-care
43:47 - Returning to Oxford House, alumni work, and moving beyond it
48:23 - Work, family, and rebuilding relationships with his daughter
51:42 - Genetic risk, openness with his daughter, years clean, and recovery credit
55:21 - Community vs isolation, fundraising, stigma, and parental pain
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