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Please be aware this conversation contains references to sexual assault and gender-based violence. 

How can you practice approaching defensiveness with curiosity in yourself and others?

How can we begin to embrace our full humanity by allowing ourselves to engage in all ways of being, not just the ones that were assigned to us based on our sex?

What is a small thing you can do this week to create a next turn/ ripple from this conversation? 

Burton Patterson is a social worker by trade with experience in the fields of Harm Reduction and Mental Health and AddictionSexual Violence Prevention, and Healthy Sexual Education. He specializes working with male-identifying folks in gender-based violence prevention

Watch the Ted Talk from Tony Porter the Burton references in this conversation: ⁠A Call to Men

Listen to Part One with Burton here.

Today, Burton shares stories about his experience educating groups of young men about toxic masculinity, rape culture, and gender-based violence. Abbie and Burton discuss the ripple effect (and how it’s true for both helpful and harmful behaviors), the importance of meeting defensiveness with curiosity, and the ways to use challenges as educational moments. Burton explains the difference between toxic and healthy masculinity. Abbie and Burton explore the way meaning is made when it comes to “femininity” and “masculinity.” Abbie wonders about the ways that the small things add up to the big things and how that can help us understand how our ideas around gender formed and Burton uses the metaphor of pulling people out of a river to describe the relationship between prevention and intervention and why we need both. Finally, Abbie asks Burton what new stories we can start telling about gender to create a better social world for all of us.

Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.

Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.

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