Mars has endured a volatile and chaotic childhood, the violent death of her brother, and her own substance abuse battle. And that's not all. Still, it is only now, in her 40s, when she finds herself immobilized by the trauma. She was particularly eager to come on the podcast, hoping Renee can help her out of the social isolation she has created. Renee realizes early that what Mars needs most is hope, and she guides Mars through the creation of a narrative that opens up space for joy. The episode starts with tears and ends with laughter - and even includes a surprise update.
