"I feel like I just got off Dr. Phil. I don't even know what just happened!" So said Shana towards the end of her conversation with Renee. Shana had come to the podcast without ever having listened to it; she had no expectations. Having noticed from Renee's Instagram bio that she is a nutritionist as well as a therapist, Shana figured they could discuss her recent weight gain. A few minutes into their conversation, though, Renee had other ideas. They talk through Shana's
experiences with addiction, abusive relationships, debilitating anxiety, and family conflict. Renee does answer Shana's questions about weight gain in the end, but only after leaving a very excited Shana with a new, liberating lens on her past, present, and future.