The Grateful Podcast with Jack Wagoner
Episode 85
Guesting Carmen Turner Schott
In this episode of The Grateful Podcast, I sit down with Carmen Turner Schott, a licensed clinical social worker, trauma therapist, and professional astrologer who has worked for over 25 years in the U.S. Air Force. Together, we explore the intersection of astrology and psychology, challenging assumptions and expanding perspectives.
Initially skeptical, I came into this conversation with questions—and I left with new insight into how astrology might serve as a tool for self-awareness, healing, and transformation.
We dive into:
•How Carmen bridges ancient astrology with modern trauma therapy
•The surprising origins of astrology in medicine and religion
•Why full birth charts go deeper than horoscopes or memes
•Real stories of healing, intuition, and transformation
•Ethical concerns and scientific research in astrology
•Whether astrology can complement or surpass traditional therapy
•The role of free will vs. destiny in astrological interpretation
If you’re a skeptic, a believer, or just curious—this conversation will challenge you to look at astrology in a whole new light.
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Find Carmen:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carmen_turner_schott_author/
Website: https://carmenturnerschott.com/bio/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ @CarmenTurnerSchott
Chapters:
00:00 Skepticism and Curiosity about Astrology
02:56 Personal Experiences and the Journey into Astrology
05:53 Astrology as a Tool for Self-Awareness
09:17 The Science and History of Astrology
12:37 Astrology's Role in Religion and Culture
15:30 Skepticism and Confirmation Bias in Astrology
18:21 Balancing Astrology with a Military Career
21:59 Transitioning to a Full-Time Astrologer
30:01 Astrology and Personal Journey
31:44 Astrology as a Therapeutic Tool
36:06 Research and Ethics in Astrology
37:33 Bridging Astrology and Psychology
46:19 Astrology: Understanding and Responsibility
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🎙️ About Jack:
I’m an 18-year-old high school student with a big dream: to show the world that you can be grateful and ambitious at the same time. Through The Grateful Podcast, I explore what it means to live a meaningful life—one deep conversation at a time.