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First podcast of the summer!  This week, Katherine and Rachel sat down and chatted with Jen Ruckel. Jen shares her families non-traditional gender roles, as Jen works full time and her husband is the primary care-giver to their two sons. She shares how it is to be a woman in leadership and how important it is to lead with empathy.  We have a great chat about how important sponsorship is within companies to help make sure all people have the ability to be considered for roles they could be successful in. Have a listen!

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