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In this fiery and thought-provoking episode of The Smartest Girl in the World, Jason and Nivine dive headfirst into one of their most passionate conversations yet — what’s gone wrong with America. 

Nivine lays out exactly how she would run the country — her “Smartest Girl Plan for America” — with bold (and sometimes hilarious) takes on leadership, values, and what it means to be a functioning society again. Jason challenges her ideas in real-time, sparking a heated but fascinating back-and-forth that’s equal parts intense, funny, and a little terrifyingly honest.

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