Drew and Tim discuss writing songs for specific events or themes. Then they interview Caleb Schmiege to discuss how motivation influences the creative process.
00:00 - Intro and Theme Song
00:28 - Songwriting for a theme or event
05:22 - Interview with Caleb Schmiege
17:19 - Wrap-up
https://soundcloud.com/caleb-schmiege
https://www.patreon.com/heartsandhandspodcast
