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Season 2 Episode 11: Navigating Ethical Non-Monogamy: Conversations with Dr. Ethan Schwab
What if there's a healthier alternative to traditional relationships? In this episode, Dr. Jenna hosts Dr. Ethan Schwab, an ASEC certified sex therapist and licensed marriage and family therapist. He joins us to explore the world of ethical non-monogamy, polyamory, and open relationships.
Dr. Schwab breaks down the vocabulary people need to understand this growing relationship movement. From negotiated open relationships to hierarchical polyamory and relationship anarchy, he explains how these structures work and why they're becoming increasingly mainstream, especially among younger generations.
"One person can't be everything," Dr. Schwab explains, addressing why more couples are considering alternatives to traditional monogamy. Whether it's mismatched sexual desires, different interests, or simply an authentic expression of one's relationship style, ethical non-monogamy offers options for those willing to communicate openly.
The conversation digs deep into practical considerations: How do you handle safer sex practices with multiple partners? Where do people find the time? What boundaries need to be established? Most importantly, how do you have that first conversation with your partner without threatening your existing relationship?
Dr. Schwab offers invaluable advice for couples: slow down, avoid assumptions ("the mother of all f-ups"), and start small with just one experience before expanding. He distinguishes between wants and needs in non-monogamy, noting that for some people, loving multiple partners is central to their identity.
Whether you're curious about ethical non-monogamy or actively considering it, this episode provides thoughtful guidance on approaching these relationship structures with integrity, respect, and care. Subscribe to the Coupled Podcast for more conversations about modern relationships and challenges.
Dr. Jenna and Dr. Nari are the Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists behind the Coupled Podcast. They both have private practices where they work with individuals, couples, and families in Florida. The two are ready to shake up the world of couples therapy and want to extend resources beyond the couples they see in their private practices.
If you like this episode and want to know more about taking the next step to improve your communication, connection, and intimacy, head over to our websites to learn more about our Staying Coupled and Getting Coupled courses. These online courses give you the flexibility to improve your relationship from the comfort and convenience of your home. The Staying Coupled course is for couples who want to do the work to connect, communicate, and have the healthiest relationship possible. The Getting Coupled course is for premarital couples wanting to learn the essentials for a successful marriage. Topics in both courses include the main issues couples face:
For more information, visit drjennascott.com/courses or drnarijeter.com/courses
Disclaimer: This podcast is not a substitute for therapy. If you’re struggling, we encourage you to seek support from a licensed therapist in your state. Our relationship suggestions and content may not be applicable or advised for relationships with intimate partner violence (IPV). If you need resources, contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline 800-799-7233.
