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First, Joe Budden and Mal break up and now Desus and Mero. What's the deal?We are tired of seeing talented Black men split over "creative differences"...like, what does that even mean?As men, we should be better prepared to handle conflict in a HEALTHY manner with each other, and thats exactly what Walker and Gatrey come together to discuss.You will be excited to hear how mismanaged conflict has almost caused your favorite co-hosts to split. Listen in as the conversation gets real deep and real vulnerable as the fellas theoretically apply some perspective to Desus and Mero's recent split.

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