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Our 99th episode is an extended, productive conversation on racial reconciliation. Gatrey shares how the negative impacts of racism gave him low level anxiety about a company function he attended where he was the only Black person in attendance. Walker chimes heavy on Jon Mattingly interview and how his comments show that there is still an ongoing issue on how the police view Black people. We're not pointing fingers, just merely sharing our respective points of view. We sincerely hope that you enjoy.

We are committed to having REAL conversations in effort to help men be better. Not only for themselves, but for our society. We're working to change the narrative on men, one podcast at a time. We welcome your feedback as we charter these waters.

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