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This episode of Sandwich Season Sanity is about navigating the “afterparty” of the empty nest, offering encouragement and wisdom for moms redefining their purpose after their children have grown. Host Ruthie Gray welcomes guest Kate Batastelli—author, former Broadway actress, and mother of Grammy-winning artist Francesca Battistelli—to share her insights and journey.

Ruthie and Kate discuss the reality that the shift to an empty nest can bring deep grief and a loss of purposeful identity. Kate shares, “The only way out of grief and heartache is to go through it.” She emphasizes that few moms prepare for this transition emotionally, often feeling blindsided when their central role as "Mom" shifts and their children begin new, independent chapters.

Some key thoughts from the episode:

• Embrace the Transition: The empty nest phase can be emotional, but Kate encourages us to honor the grief while also planning for a vibrant “second act.” Don’t get stuck—look for ways to serve, volunteer, and step outside your comfort zone.
• Seek Your “And”: Your identity isn’t just tied to the title of “mom.” There’s an “and”—a new chapter or calling that God may have for you. Ask yourself: What else am I called to do in this season?
• Prioritize Self-Care: “Self-care is not selfish.” Whether you’re in the thick of caregiving or finding your footing post-parenting, it’s essential to carve out time for what renews your spirit and brings you peace.

Resources:

• Kate Battistelli’s Website: Kate Battistelli
• Kate Battistelli’s Book: The Afterparty of the Empty Nest 
• Ruthie’s Private Podcast: The Peaceful Mom Collection
• Retreat for Empty Nest Entrepreneurs: Next Steps Retreat

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