On this episode of Off the Clock, I’m joined by my friends Alan and Victor. They’re both multi-hyphenate creators, lifelong best friends, and recently collaborated for the first time professionally on the short film Always Most of the Time. Here’s some of what we talk about:
First question: What is the thing that has surprised you most about making a movie together?
- why I, as a white man, am frequently uncomfortable having conversations about race and what to do about it (hint: show up with curiosity, not prescriptions)
- the male loneliness epidemic and how to fix it?
- the importance of a film editor – a great editor can elevate a mediocre film and a lousy editor can make a good movie terrible
- writing a story from the perspective of someone who wronged you and the deep empathy that implies
- how friends work through disagreements on a creative project without torpedoing the project or the friendship
- the origin of their friendship and a pushup contest that wasn’t
- culturally why men (and the unique perspective of black men on this issue) are frequently sizing each other up – also! New York vs Atlanta
- why for Victor and I that our marriage is like the easiest thing in our lives, but also how much work we put into it
- taking a “Hippocratic Oath” of friendship
Check out Always Most of the Time at Victor's website. Find Alan here.
Theme song by Sorry Sweetheart.
Logo by Nebulus Visions.
Produced by Deft Communications.
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Recorded over Google Meet.
