In this reflective mentorship session, Matt and Will dive into the age-old question: What do you actually want? Through honest stories — including a lunch with a former CEO — they explore how clarity often comes through doing, not just thinking. Along the way, they unpack why excellence where you are matters, how to ask the right questions, and why mentors, curiosity, and courage are essential to building a life of meaning. This episode is a reminder that while it’s okay not to know, it’s dangerous to drift. Your life is precious. Choose with intention.
0:00 – Opening & MEPS Check-in
0:06 – Why This Episode Matters
0:07 – Doing vs. Thinking: How You Discover What You Want
0:08 – Life Design as the Starting Point
0:12 – Desire vs. Ambition
0:17 – Hard Things Build Character
0:21 – The Life Design Exercise
0:24 – Three Career Archetypes
0:29 – Doing the Work, Even on Sundays
0:33 – Marriage as a Team Effort
0:34 – Lunch with Former P&G CEO John Lilly
0:38 – Providing vs. Being Present
0:42 – Health Over Wealth
0:47 – Maslow's Hierarchy & Motivation
0:50 – Self-Actualization as a Journey
0:52 – Building the Base in Your 20s
0:53 – Final Takeaways on Mentorship
0:56 – Closing Thoughts & Rockefeller Quote
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