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In part 2 of their Dear Evan Hansen discussion, Melvin & Dan figure out where Dear Evan Hansen went wrong, Daniel loses his mind, and they share conflicting perspectives on the film overall.
Topics:
- Discussing the incomplete, inconsequential ending to Dear Evan Hansen.
- Daniel, "This is the most selfish, self-centered take on Mental Health I have ever seen!"
- Melvin, "...part of contrition is the humbleness to let one's consequences unfold."
- Daniel, "Evan Hansen is not the character who should come of age and get redemption. The victim of mental health issues is Connor. That is the character that, if you watch this movie and struggle with mental health issues, that's the character you should be identifying with. Not Evan Hansen."
- Feeling bad (or, emotions that one otherwise deems unwanted) is not immoral. Additionally, feeling bad is not indicative of genuine contrition.
- Daniel, "[Dear Evan Hansen is] borderline evil."
- When someone undergoes the consequences of their sin, those consequences are nobody else's fault except for the one who incurs them. There may be influences, and there may be systems at play, but the onus of sinful consequences bear upon the sinner.
- Melvin isn't quite as offended by Dear Evan Hansen as Daniel, but he still thinks the movie is kind of lame even if he liked some stuff about it.
- Melvin also gets some schadenfreude from the idea that Dear Evan Hansen was marketed as a life-changing, encouraging movie only to have it fall flat on his face. He then compares it to Unplanned, the pro-life movie from 2019 that he felt seriously missed the mark.
- As of recording, Melvin had seen 39 movies from 2021. Dear Evan Hansen will likely land as #34 out of his ranked list.
- 5 words from each host: Describe Dear Evan Hansen.
- Dear Evan Hansen accurately represents how a majority of people see mental health: through a poor, uneducated, and overly confident lens from which they have little knowledge or authority.
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