Terrence Malick's new film, "A Hidden Life," debuted at the Cannes Film Festival in May (2019). The movie is about Franz Jaggerstatter, an Austrian farmer and a Catholic who refused to serve in Hitler's army and, as a result, was executed on Aug. 9, 1943. In this episode, Jack Gilroy, a founding member of the American group "Friends of Franz," gives us the inside scoop on how the story of Franz's witness came to be known and why Franz's wife, Franziska, at the age of 94, was seen riding in the sidecar of a motorcycle in 2007! Also, find out why Jack's group is now called "Friends of Franz and Ben."
0:00 Meet Jack Gilroy
3:16 The discovery of Franz by Gordon Zahn
6:30 Daniel Ellsberg credits both Gordon and Franz
8:20 Jack's two trips to Austria and the forming "Friends of Franz"
18:40 Franz's early life and his influential wife, Franziska
21:37 Franz's first "no" to the Nazis
23:48 His second "no"
25:00 The third no: No support from Catholic parish, priest, bishop or community
26:45 Franz's final "no" and death by beheading
28:20 The movement to have Franz beatified and Pope Benedict XVI
30:50 Blessed Franz Jaggerstatter and the "democratic process" of becoming a saint
38:17 Was Franz opposed to all wars or only unjust wars?
39:20 Dr. Erna Putz and her "perfunctory" book (!) that became "A Hidden Life"
42:17 A new era of the Conscientious Objector?
45:25 Ben Salmon, "The Unsung Hero of the Great War"
50:41 Key differences between Franz and Ben
51:46 Ben: jail, trial, hunger strike
55:28 Is a Catholic who doesn't serve his country in war "insane"?
57:46 5,000 words per day and the typewriter
59:13 Is Ben Salmon a saint?
1:04:05 Dedication of Ben Salmon's grave
1:05:33 Getting the word out
1:06:43 How you can help
1:08:09 Final thoughts
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