Description

Joe Bogdan is a Chief Master Sergeant in the US Air Force and has been serving for 19 years. Born in Songtan, South Korea, they migrated to the USA when he was still an infant. He is a USAF Senior Enlisted Leader, Professor of Leadership Studies, Co-Founder of Llama-Leadership.com & Llama Lounge Podcast.

[00:01 – 11:57] Opening Segment

• Joe Bogdan gives a little bit of background about himself
  • Chief Master Sergeant in the Air Force
  • Been serving for 19 years
• Joe talks about his childhood
  • Struggled with his transition not being able to speak English
  • Shares his reason behind joining the Air Force

[11:58 – 22:31] Dealing with Trauma and Grief

• We talk about a recent Command Sergeant Major committing suicide
• Joe shares how he keeps moving forward, dealing with all the trauma and grief that comes in his way.
• I talk about some of my experiences just starting in the service.
• Quick shoutout to our Facebook Page

[22:32 – 39:26] Coping with Trauma and Grief

• Coming home from a deployment, Joe talks about how it can get very depressing.
• The cultural differences in coping with trauma and grief
• Joe talks about the coping skills that helped him in his dark times, healthy and unhealthy.
• Joe gives some tips and advice on how you can help and support someone during their darkest days.

[39:27 – 48:42] Hurting People During Your Process of Healing 

• Hurting others during your process of recovery
  • Making amends to the people you’ve hurt
• Correcting the destructive behaviors
• Seeking professional help
  • Find a person who you can trust and have a connection

[48:43 – 53:46] Closing Segment

• What advice would you give your younger self?
  • Don’t keep yourself in a box.
• Connect with Joe online! See the links below.
• Resource recommendations:
  • Their website
  • Llama Lounge podcast
  • Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
  • Tribe by Sebastian Junger
• Final words of encouragement from Joe

Tweetable Quotes:

“If you don’t want to allow yourself to be vulnerable. I think you don’t want to ask for help.” – Joe Bogdan

“We often overlook the trauma that takes place to the people who are left behind.” – Joe Bogdan

“If we don’t acknowledge there’s a problem, then we can’t solve it.” – Joe Bogdan

“Growth is on the other side of that comfort zone. It’s outside of it. You gotta go for it.” – Joe Bogdan

You can connect with Joe on https://llama-leadership.com/. Listen to their podcast, Llama Lounge.

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