Katherine is an educator and the host of A Few Bad Apples, a podcast that chronicles criminality among police. She joins Billy via Zoom to talk about Rodney King, The significance of badge bending in Vallejo, CA, (it wasn't just for aesthetic reasons) rethinking the function of police in society and the impact of pop culture on policing. This summary is by no means definitive. There is so much to discuss when the topic is one of the most important social issues of our time, but they do their best with the hour they have.