Recorded on January 4, 2020 this is part two of Billy's conversation with Dragon Wing author Rebecca K. Busch. It is amateur hour on Billy's end, as he makes noises and walks away from the mic to get coffee but Rebecca is as composed as always as she talks about the darker nature of human beings. This was one of the earliest recordings of Conversation ex Nihilo and it seems an appropriate one to close 2020. For more information on Rebecca please visit her website www.rebeccakbusch.com