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We are nature!  But humanness may add some extra hurdles to life and today's guest, John Holdmeier, shares his journey of using time outdoors, getting sober, and time in Thailand to ultimately move from one eddy {paddle talk} to the next. 

 Growing up on the water, John explains the way having an upbringing of outside adventures help shape who he is along with the inherent mindfulness that comes with exposure to the elements.

Tune in to also hear about the feeling that kept him going in his mindfulness and sobriety journeys, lessons from the water, and of his latest leap from corporate to personal passion work.


Be sure to follow along with John's company, Actual Outdoors

and check him out on the Nature Untold podcast

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