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APOLOGY: Matt is very sorry for the audio quality of this episode! He is a technology geek and in the name of making a great streaming experience for those who financially support us, he messed up the audio.

We had two options:
1) Give you a lower quality file that had the entire conversation or
2) A higher quality audio where it cut out four times for a few seconds while Stephen was speaking.

We choose having the full conversation over that of better quality! It will be fixed next week!

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