Summary
Michael and Jeff discuss the challenges of measuring spiritual maturity and the need for a deeper understanding of faith that goes beyond mere rule-following.
00:00 Opening
09:04 Exploring Centered Set Church Concepts
30:57 Bounded vs. Centered Churches
38:06 Leadership in Bounded vs. Centered Models
42:28 Blood, Ink, and Pencil Issues in Faith
46:54 Centered Approach to Faith and Community
50:04 The Challenge of Sin Management vs. Image Bearing
51:59 Digging Wells vs. Building Fences
