In this episode of Anxiety Matters, Bonnie and Bonnie engage in an enlightening discussion about their contrasting perspectives on guest appearances and how they relate to our experiences with anxiety. As psychologists specializing in anxiety, they recognize how their different preferences for guest interviews encapsulate broader themes of anxiety and comfort zones.
They delve deeply into the personal experiences that shape our thoughts about social anxiety and share how, despite Bonnie East's tendency to prefer fewer guests, Bonnie West's own history of social anxiety influences her comfort in larger discussions involving multiple voices. Bonnie astutely points out the underlying motivations regarding preferences for guests, including how social anxiety can manifest as a desire to avoid being in the spotlight, making room for more voices in any conversation as a form of shield.
As they continue the dialogue, they reveal clinical experiences treating social anxiety and the powerful benefits of exposure therapy. They discuss practical methods used to help clients confront their anxiety through engaging in real-world situations, such as making phone calls or asking for help in public spaces. Reflecting on studies involving social anxiety and baristas, they illustrate the common misperceptions that individuals with social anxiety have regarding other people's judgments, emphasizing the importance of behavioral changes that lead to meaningful progress in managing anxiety.
Bonnie East and West also discuss the implications of technology and social media on social anxiety. They express concern about how excessive smartphone use during social interactions can undermine the building of genuine connections and the practice of social skills. Drawing on research, they illustrate how social comparisons fueled by social media can exacerbate feelings of inadequacy and isolation among individuals of all ages, particularly young people.
Throughout the episode, they acknowledge the importance of self-compassion and acceptance when navigating social challenges and illustrate this by sharing personal anecdotes and professional reflections that resonate with many individuals grappling with social anxiety.
HIGHLIGHTS:
2:30 Social Anxiety in Focus
4:54 Treating Social Anxiety
7:44 Experiences in Group Therapy
13:56 Understanding Social Anxiety
15:07 The Barista Study
18:59 Overcoming the Fear of Judgment
22:59 Shifting Focus in Social Situations
24:33 The Impact of Phones on Social Anxiety
28:01 Social Media and Comparisons
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Alone Together by Sherry Turkle
CONNECT WITH THE BONNIE ZUCKERS:
Bonnie Zucker Ph.D.(west) Website
Bonnie Zucker Psy.D. (east) Website
The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.
