This episode is a special one. I’m talking to the incredible team behind the MAC programme - that’s Mindfulness for Adolescents and Carers - and honestly, it might just be one of the most exciting approaches to mental health I’ve come across.
It’s an eight-week skills-based course that brings young people and their parents into parallel groups to learn practical tools together, in a way that actually works. We’re not talking about endless talking circles or sitting in silence pretending not to be anxious - this is real, science-backed stuff that helps you train your mind, spot the spiral before it kicks off, and finally feel like you’ve got a grip on things.
Whether you're a parent or a young person... you’re going to get a lot from this episode.
Here are the Highlights:
(04:15) – Mindfulness… but make it actually useful.
(08:50) – What MAC is, why it works, and why it’s not just sitting in a circle humming.
(11:30) – Kat shares how this programme changed her relationship with her parents.
(22:45) – The spider's web of thoughts: a genius analogy from a teen.
(31:10) – “Tried mindfulness once, didn’t work.” Sound familiar?
(36:00) – Why sceptics are exactly who this programme is for.
(43:30) – From Michael Jordan to classroom panic: mindfulness for real life.
(49:00) – How to take part in the MAC study (and why you’ll want to).
(59:57) – Top Takeaway of the week (over to you, Jerry)
Resource for this show available to download HERE
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