In this episode, Callie and Meagan welcome their guest, Cat Polivoda to discuss the concept of fat liberation. Cat shares her experience as a woman in a larger body and the challenges faced by individuals in larger bodies, such as marginalization, discrimination, and limited access to clothing and healthcare. She also talks about her plus-size resale shop and the importance of building a fat community. The conversation highlights the need for cultural change and inclusivity in society. The conversation explores the impact of societal pressure to make ourselves smaller and how it affects our mental and emotional well-being. It highlights the importance of being present and embracing our bodies as they are, rather than constantly striving for a certain physical state.