Ben and Trev are joined by the always wonderful Ryan Betson. They all sat above the theatre entrances at PAX 2023 and had a chat about some video games that don't exist. The games they discussed include:
- Two rival editions of a media empire game, one starring a Goose and one starring a Swan.
- A boss has to visit all the parties in a high rise building while dodging a touchy workmate.
- A rogue like burglary game.
