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Mike Garrison: Hey, Carl, what's going on? Dude?

Mike Garrison: How's it going.

Carl J Cox: How you doing? Bro.

Mike Garrison: Man. I'm doing great.

Carl J Cox: Okay, we got all that stuff. Good. So have you. Did you do any hunting or fishing this past weekend?

Mike Garrison: Fishing. I don't. Hunting takes takes me away from fishing.

Carl J Cox: So, okay, so your priority is the fishing side. And okay, okay, cool. I was just because why did I assume? Maybe because I saw you in your camo gear. I assumed you were hunting then. But you you

Carl J Cox: primarily just fishermen.

Carl J Cox: Yeah, okay.

Mike Garrison: Because I like to fish for wild trout, and they're pretty spooky.

Carl J Cox: Oh, okay. All right.

Mike Garrison: So try your.

Carl J Cox: You're.

Mike Garrison: Yeah.

Carl J Cox: You're in ninja mode. Then.

Mike Garrison: Well, I mean as ninja as a fat older guy can be

Mike Garrison: true story.

Carl J Cox: Oh, man! So good!

Mike Garrison: My goal is not to fall down

Mike Garrison: when I'm fishing. It's like it's not to fall in and bash my knees

Mike Garrison: so.

Carl J Cox: That's so. Do you catch any good fish? This weekend.

Mike Garrison: No, it was it was different. It was different because

Mike Garrison: I've been kind of in a funk spiritually for about a year and a half.

Carl J Cox: Really.

Mike Garrison: Just really struggling and like prayer. Life has been awful right, you know, and basically I cause I came to. I came to faith later in life, through A, B and I group

Mike Garrison: through Referral Group.

Mike Garrison: And so I I never have connected with church Christianity.

Mike Garrison: Right. And so, and every time I do I default into this

Mike Garrison: facsimile of who I am

Mike Garrison: right. And so and I've one of the st books I read that really spoke to me was John Eldridge, wild at heart, like it was a I don't know if you've read that book, but it was a good

Mike Garrison: I I kind of moved away from it because I had gotten really excited. My dad not was not a Christian.

Mike Garrison: and I shared the book with Dad and was like, Hey, dad, this book is like, why, I feel like you're I became a Christian because of how you love me. You love me like this.

Mike Garrison: like God loves people in this book.

Mike Garrison: It didn't work. Dad died

Mike Garrison: an unbeliever. I was holding his hand. It was awful right.

Carl J Cox: Oh, man!

Mike Garrison: And so like I've been like I I really have been in a funk ever since my dad died

Mike Garrison: just and like everybody's like, well, you know my God's in charge. You don't know that he wasn't saved. I'm like, actually, I have a great degree of confidence

Mike Garrison: because of the conversation that he wasn't

Mike Garrison: I? I would love nothing better. But I don't live the platitude life.

Mike Garrison: you know. I've got a severely disabled kid platitudes just offend me

Mike Garrison: right. They just don't work. I don't often react to them. I just kind of like, okay, whatever you know. But so anyways, long story short.

Mike Garrison: Eldridge

Mike Garrison: just came out with cinema

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