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What if it’s punk to pause? To quote the Nap Bishop Tricia Hersey, that “rest is a form of resistance”?

Caro Turlings and Jobbe Holtes are multi-talented creatives and Vision alumni with a deep love for music, dancing, and dressing up. They join Laurence and Carlos to explore

If you want to make a positive impact but think the only way through is to push until you burn out, this conversation will help you find a new way to make a difference more sustainably.

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